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      <title>Podcast: Building a More Appealing CLI for Agentic LLMs Based on Learnings from the Textual Framework</title>
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      <description>&lt;img src="https://res.infoq.com/podcasts/learnings-from-building-textual-framework/en/smallimage/the-infoq-podcast-logo-thumbnail-1765529532288.jpg"/&gt;&lt;p&gt;Will McGugan, the maker of Textual and Rich frameworks, speaks about the reasoning of developing the two two libraries and the lesson learned. Also, he shares light on Toad, his current project, which he envisions being a more visually appealing way of interacting with agentic LLMs through command line.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;i&gt;By Will McGugan&lt;/i&gt;</description>
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      <category>Agents</category>
      <category>Large language models</category>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2025 11:00:00 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Will McGugan</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-12-15T11:00:00Z</dc:date>
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